Is Gambling With Friends Legal

Massachusetts citizens can place legal wagers in a number of markets – the state is home to tribal and commercial casinos, state and regional lottery sales, dog and horse racing, and plentiful charity bingo and poker games. Social gambling (private games of chance and skill among friends) is essentially unregulated in the Old Line State.

aceofspades

Illegal debts are not legally enforceable. Even friendly bets among friends are not legal, and thus the loser is completely on the honor system to pay up. Lest you think I'm incrimating myself, even members of the Supreme Court have a home poker game.


As an attorney, I had to look up your claims Wizard - as I have always known that it is a state issue of whether 'friendly' or 'social' bets are legal - here is a chart (one of many that can be found online) outlining (with links) each state's laws on social gambling

Is Gambling Legal In Virginia

LINK TO THE CHART
midwestgb

As an attorney, I had to look up your claims Wizard - as I have always known that it is a state issue of whether 'friendly' or 'social' bets are legal - here is a chart (one of many that can be found online) outlining (with links) each state's laws on social gambling
LINK TO THE CHART


LegalHi Ace.. Chuck's chart is quite nice. But a prohibition is only as relevant as its actual enforcement. FWIW, social gambling is alive and well in the states I hold a law license for.. KS and MO.. ;-)
That said, I would never attempt a legal action in either state to collect a friendly gambling debt.
aceofspades
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As an attorney, I had to look up your claims Wizard - as I have always known that it is a state issue of whether 'friendly' or 'social' bets are legal - here is a chart (one of many that can be found online) outlining (with links) each state's laws on social gambling
LINK TO THE CHART


Hi Ace.. Chuck's chart is quite nice. But a prohibition is only as relevant as its actual enforcement. FWIW, social gambling is alive and well in the states I hold a law license for.. KS and MO.. ;-)
That said, I would never attempt a legal action in either state to collect a friendly gambling debt.
Hi Midwest - looks like we can start our own law firm - I will refer KS and MO cases to you and you can refer NY cases to me :)
Doc

The first item discussed, the dominant factor of chance, doesn't seem to apply here. I don't really think that anyone would interpret the amount of weight lost by an individual over nine months to really be dominated by chance.
midwestgb
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As an attorney, I had to look up your claims Wizard - as I have always known that it is a state issue of whether 'friendly' or 'social' bets are legal - here is a chart (one of many that can be found online) outlining (with links) each state's laws on social gambling
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Hi Ace.. Chuck's chart is quite nice. But a prohibition is only as relevant as its actual enforcement. FWIW, social gambling is alive and well in the states I hold a law license for.. KS and MO.. ;-)
That said, I would never attempt a legal action in either state to collect a friendly gambling debt.
Hi Midwest - looks like we can start our own law firm - I will refer KS and MO cases to you and you can refer NY cases to me :)With
Gotcha. Will PM you sometime!
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As an attorney, I had to look up your claims Wizard


Thanks! So, if social gambling is allowed in a given state would the small claims court entertain a gambling dispute that took place in said friendly poker game? I have never once heard of this happening, but don't claim to sit in on small claims cases on a regular basis.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
rxwine

Thanks! So, if social gambling is allowed in a given state would the small claims court entertain a gambling dispute that took place in said friendly poker game?


The standard way to settle a dispute in a 'friendly poker game' is by shooting the dirty cheater.
ref: cowboy movies.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
aceofspades

Thanks! So, if social gambling is allowed in a given state would the small claims court entertain a gambling dispute that took place in said friendly poker game? I have never once heard of this happening, but don't claim to sit in on small claims cases on a regular basis.

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I have never heard of this either as I am not sure friends want to testify against each other and waste time dragging their other friends in as witnesses. However, stranger things have happened..you would have to either have your attorney or ask the Judge to issue a subpoena ad testifcandum forcing your friends to testify. Whether their memory will be faulty at that point in time is something I would not bet against!

Is Gambling With Friends Legal

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NRS 463.361 Enforceability and resolution of gaming debts.
1. Except as otherwise provided in NRS 463.361 to 463.366, inclusive, and 463.780, gaming debts that are not evidenced by a credit instrument are void and unenforceable and do not give rise to any administrative or civil cause of action.
Mission146

I have never heard of this either as I am not sure friends want to testify against each other and waste time dragging their other friends in as witnesses. However, stranger things have happened..you would have to either have your attorney or ask the Judge to issue a subpoena ad testifcandum forcing your friends to testify. Whether their memory will be faulty at that point in time is something I would not bet against!


I'm not an attorney, but would a Court actually get involved with anything having to do with a bet or Poker game, or what have you? They're not the gaming commission, and my guess would be that, unless a State has laws specifically regulating the actual game/betting, then the Judge would hesitate to get involved. My speculation on this would be that someone who lost in the game simply could not sue the host for losing.
If you will peruse 55-9-2, here:

States Where Gambling Is Legal


http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/West-Virginia/

Is Gambling Among Friends Legal

That's the West Virginia law on unauthorized gambling. It basically says that the loser can sue the winner for what he lost which is because, pursuant to your link, West Virginia is actually one of the states in which friendly gambling is illegal.
It is for this reason that in State where friendly gambling is legal, (with parameters to the amounts one is permitted to lose to another per twenty-four hours, if applicable) the loser cannot recover that which he lost from the winner.
I still think the Court would hesitate to get involved when it comes to allegations like bottom-dealing, card-stacking, etc.
Vultures can't be choosers.

There are many different types of illegal gambling, and some gambling activities may be legal in one context but not another. Often, different areas have very different rules about what types of gambling are allowed, sometimes resulting in a concentration of gambling facilities in certain areas. Certain types of gambling may be illegal in an area, or the game must adhere to certain regulations in order to be legal. Illegal gambling often takes the form of otherwise legal games put on in illegal venues, which complicates the issue even further.

One of the most common types of illegal gambling involves games that may otherwise be legal in illegal venues that do not have permission from the state to operate. This may include card games, video poker machines, and even simple games involving coins and dice. Generally, informal games between friends are seen as different than underground gambling rings, but in certain cases even social poker games played for money can be seen as unlawful gambling. When a game is not run with the explicit permission of the government in the form of licenses and other documents, it is generally considered illegal.